A people pleasing innocent 13 year old child.
Just Lois
A people pleasing innocent 13 year old child.
Just Lois
hello to everyone :) i wanted to introduce myself as a newbie.
i was raised in and i am currently on active status due to most of my family being very much in, but i am so ready to be done and have felt that way for quite some time.
internally i know this is not the right religion without a doubt.
Aloha, ExciteSincereDetermination,
It is lovely to have you with us. Sounds like JW's, 7 1/2 million, minus one.
Welcome to the first day, of the rest of your life.
Just Lois
what is the most valuable thing your mother taught you?.
as an aside was she a witness or not at the time?.
uun .
What can I say.
It was the best of times...It was the worst of times.
I'm still trying to figure it out.
I've got nothing else to say.
Just Lois
why did jehovah have to protect the enterence to eden with a flaming sword after kicking adam and eve out when all one had to do to get back in was to hop over the fence further up the road?.
one of the bible's mysteries..
Edmond Dantes>>>>>>>>Picky-Picky-Picky lol
Just Lois
PS I love your name.
hi there, as was suggested to me, i'm starting this thread to say hi to everyone.. my awakening began recently, after the new light on the 'slave'.
i felt it didn't add up and went to check and found out ttatt.
for a while i tried to find evidence of whether the wt might still be god's organization, i needn't say i couldn't.. i had already resigned as a ministerial servant and a pioneer, had already had several issues with the elders and did not put up with their nonsense for a long.
Good Evening Alec. It is so nice to have you among us, tonight. Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Just Lois
i was wondering if anybody had any figure$ on what it costs for a couple to regular pioneer if you would include the vehicle expense and the value of their time?.
How dare the Higher Ups Promote Pioneering.
Worldwide Donations allow Popes/Governing Body Members to live for free. Free transportation, chauffered cars. Air travel, economy to first class.
Zone Overseers and wives, live for free. Four door car provided. Air travel provided.
District Overseers and wives, live for free. Four door car provided.
Circuit Overseers and wives, live for free. Four door car provided.
Missionaries, men and women, live for free. Have a car or motorbike, if someone buys it for them. Within the past 10 years a sister in Myamar (Burma) fell off the back of a crowded local trolley bus and died. As a missionary she couldn't afford to ride in anything better.
Bethelites, live for free. They are expected to be active participants at their assigned KHalls, no matter how far away, and expected to pay for their transportation getting there and back. They cannot afford vacations, unless someone pays for it.
Local publishers in cold weather areas have added expense of Winter "preaching" clothes and burn up a lot of gas, they have to pay for.
Since the JW Elite don't pay for anything but get all the perks, they do not have the right to tell any of us how to live our lives. They are leeches.
Just Lois
my first post here after about 6 months of lurking.
i will comment more and give some more info later, but i am still active, and looking for my way to exit.
i had a question that i'm hoping someone can help with.
WhichWayToGo , Welcome to You and Your Wife
Just Lois
i've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.
as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.
somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.
Ragnarok75, Welcome from The North Pacific. I am so happy you woke up and are here. You are a man with a child and a woman you love.
You say your mom thought she would be able to hold your hand and as a Family, skip merrily into the New Order(tm). She would never experience old age or death. How could she and I ever believed such nonsence? She apparently still believes the lies. I do not. Has she met her little Granddaughter? But for you now, born in 1975 and now it is 2013, it is time for you to have your own Family. My 2 daughters were born in 1974 and 1976. I thought my daughters would never grow up in "Satan's" world, as I was told this myself as a child. Oh, why did I not listen to my gut feelings, as you now have done? What a delight to see more of the 7,000,000 wake up to the truth of this manipulating, control group and leave. Congratulations on your Little Girl Sweetie Pie and her Daddy making his first post here. I am sure if she understood, she would be very proud of her Papa. Just Loisfor me its the district conventions.
not bragging in anyway, but i was born-into a family of 'higher ups' im talking co's and zo's..... and there is a room that they set up in the conventions/stadiums called the "chairmans office".
i always have access to these rooms, because im usually with one of my higher up family members who give talks and all that other crap.. anyways, while everyone in the convention is sitting in the sun, eating a slimy, soggy bolognia sandwich, the chairmans office is air conditioned, has a variety of chilled beverages, 'coke, pepsi, diet coke, gatorade, dasani water bottles,' not to mention the 'danishes, sandwich triangles, cookies, cakes, muffins, fresh coffee, and for lunch, pizza, salads, pastas, and lasagna'.
I wanted to "in and out" and "in and out" and "in...." you get the idea, with the man I loved, so bad. Just natural behavior from the Creator of Life. Right? lol But
I never did. I did not want to displease God.
When I read that "Judge" Rutherford did the "in and out" as many times as he desired, with whom ever he desired, for years, but not with his wife, and all the
time he was the self proclaimed Pope, President of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, no disfellowshipping , no committee meeting, no embaressment , no
loss of Friends for him, I lost it. That was the final straw. Ones love, ones Youth, cannot be repeated. When it is gone, it is gone. I called this active Elder, love of my youth, this past Spring, when I was going thru such horrendous mental and emotional turmoil and strain. I left a message. He didn't return my call.
Just Lois
i have only 3 jw relatives.
they are fun to watch.
i just observe them now, and never make comment on jw things.
Insightful. Interesting. And your Welcome! lol
Just Lois